Mark and Diane (Ross is out sick!) discuss a list of 20 reasons Christians should not celebrate Valentine’s Day. Mark gives his two-cents-worth on the video that has gone viral where the dad shoots his teenage daughter’s laptop, and he addresses the issue of Christians who strain at gnats and swallow camels!
Hello.. Just wanted to say I love listening to the show.. it serves as my daily humor as well as enlightenment on many many issues.. both strange and those that hit home..
Just a quick comment on the issues of celebrating Valentine’s day.. the many reasons why we shouldn’t celebrate it.. Diane made a comment that she doesn’t think that hard about it when she’s buying her husband’s card.. This question/comment I guess will serve with all holidays that have been embeded in us.. as Christmas, Holloween, Thanksgiving, Easter, Valentine’s day.. etc.. etc..
As Christians what standard do we have when it comes to paganism? I believe that being a part of this world/society we get sucked into what the world is doing and get sucked into believing that following the “norm” is acceptable. Listening to the facts of what Valentine’s day is derived from it doesn’t sound like anything I would want to be associated with. And raising my children to believe in a holiday or tradition that isn’t exemplifying Kingdom teaching doesn’t seem edifying.
I have done my own study on Holloween, Christmas and Easter, and it has lead me to believe that its not something that I want celebrated in my home or to teach my kids that they are important.. I do have a thought that maybe all holidays may have started as a moral idea however has become perverse over time which has sucked all the goodness and practical meaning out of it.. If anything we lean more on charity and Jesus during Christmas.. and the resurection during April.. but Easter baskets are a def-no go in my home.. and we are wheaning Christmas as everyone else knows it slowly (I’m guilty of starting it with my kiddies) And of course we don’t go trick or treating, because I don’t see the point.. I don’t want my kids having a huge stock pile of candy anyway. not a good mix! Although it may seem harmless and good fun.. really what are we teaching your kids? I heard you say yourself Mark that we aren’t doing a good job passing on our faith to our children.. and I do believe that this is a major part of it.. when do we draw the line and lift the standard of Christianity?.. we may don’t want our kids to miss out and I do feel guilty of that sometimes, but the bigger picture is setting the standard for our faith.
I didn’t hear a difinitive position after hearing the facts on Valentine’s day what you all’s position was on it.. I just tied in all the other American traditions in with it since its along the same lines. Valentine’s day is about Love… and I know you know what love truly is, and surely not about one day of chocolate and flowers and pretty red cards.. not harmless in hindsight but when you dig deep.. what really are we celebrating?
I just believe as Christians that we kind of let the standard drop a little on those issues.. where do we draw the line and not be of the world although in it? Yes some things may seem harmless, but isn’t that the trick of the enemy to get us off course as much as possible. .and have us celebrating pagonistic holidays and traditions? I’m not a stuffy, nose in the air christian who has it all together by far.. having typed this and reading aloud I don’t know if I’m being way to anal or serious about it.. Just a thought.. like to hear your opinion on it as well.. thanks
Mark addresses your comments on the show that airs 2/22/2012.
Matt Duszak says:
I just listened to your show.. and found this on the internet.. I am just providing information.. not taking sides! Love the show BTW, can’t wait to see Mark here in Woodbridge VA next month..
the Church acknowledges 3 Saints with the name Valentine the one whose feast day is February 14 was a holy priest in Rome, who with St. Marius and his family, assisted the martyrs in the persecution under Claudius II. He was apprehended, and sent by the emperor to the prefect of Rome, who on finding all his promises to make him renounce his faith ineffectual, commended him to be beaten withclubs, and afterwards, to be beheaded, which was executed on February 14. About the year 270. Pope Julius I is said to have built a church near Ponte Mole to his memory, which for a long time gave name to the gate now called Porta del Popolo, formerly, Porta Valetini. The greatest part of his relics are now in the church of St. Praxedes. His name is celebrated as that of an illustrious martyr in the sacramentary of St. Gregory, the Roman Missal of Thomasius, in the calendar of F. Fronto and that of Allatius, in Bede, Usuard, Ado, Notker and all other martyrologies on this day. To counter the preChristian Roman custom of boys drawing the names of girls, in honor of their goddess FEBRUTA JUNO (part of Lupercalia), on the fifteenth of this month (the couple would be sexual partners until the repairing the next year), several zealous pastors substituted the names of saints in billets given on this day.
The 14th was also a designated a feast day (until 1969, when it was dropped from the Roman Catholic calendar) to honor two Christian saints (at least one named Saint Valentine) martyred by the Roman Emperor Claudius II Gothicus. There is a little bit of love stuff in this part,though — the reason Saint Valentine was beheaded, was that he continued to marry young couples even though Claudius forbade it. Apparently Claudius thought that married soldiers weren’t as good as single soldiers.
WOW I’m GLAD I HEARD this show; what you WROTE told me you didnt like these days–I thought you guys were going JEHOVAS WITNESS on me–usually the Christians who dont like these silly traditions are MEN just like the so-called atheists. Women like decoration and colors of Christmas, Valentines Day and All Saints Eve and THEIR COLORS…..just a thot @;D
………………………..also the dude who SHOT his DAUTGHTERS laptop couldnt keep a normal relationship with a woman—he said THIS ONE IS FOR YOUR MOTHER (BLAM) AND THIS ONE IS FOR YOUR STEPMOTHER (BLAM) etc…..BTW most of these teen girls( and ..the one with the laptop) SWEAR MORE THAN MALE SAILORS IN WW2…..because they POST @#$%^%## ALL OVER FACEBOOK…….about Ms. Houston….when a women hooks up with a druggie. Its shortens their life.Im surprized she lived as song as she did
Lastly, I also heard that Valentine was martyred because he would marry soldiers and the HEART SHAPE, to me looks like the WEDDING KISS…two heads together in a kiss shape with a point on the end to not make it look like the letter ‘m’…the soldiers probably told the other soldiers by showing the heart symbol……people need to realize that marriage is a ROLLER COASTER…ups and downs of life
Wow! I didn’t expect to read these comments and had actually come here to leave a comment about something else. Instead, I have to ask – does anyone listen to what Mark says on his show?!?! I guess it’s more important that we stick out from the world by whether and how we celebrate Valentine’s Day, Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Independence Day, Labor Day, Columbus Day, Thanksgiving, Arbor Day, Presidents Day……….. We are to be lights in the world by wagging our finger at our brethren who take their kids trick or treating, or by telling our unbelieving friends/family that they won’t be getting presents for Christmas because “that’s against God” or whatever. That’s how Christians should reach out to people!?! Preaching the Gospel, sharing Jesus, telling people how God can help them – that doesn’t matter, at least not until after we get the holiday thing right. Celebrating or not celebrating a holiday with pagan origins is not going to win anyone over to Jesus. THAT is what Mark is talking about – priorities are messed up! But whatever – when you stand before Jesus and He asks you why you didn’t tell your friends about Him, at least you’ll be able to brag about how you refused to celebrate Halloween and Valentine’s Day.